tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32199602.post81051174328749255..comments2022-11-22T12:20:38.271+00:00Comments on Stop the A57/A628 Bypass (Mottram in Longdendale, Hollingworth & Tintwistle Bypass): An On/Off RomanceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32199602.post-12589151929246943612007-04-12T13:15:00.000+01:002007-04-12T13:15:00.000+01:00You write "Hell, this Government can do bloody any...You write <BR/><BR/>"Hell, this Government can do bloody anything whether it's legal or not (like Iraq, for example) so I'd suggest the "statutory procedures" and other legal loops are not worth the paper they're written on.". <BR/><BR/>If this is so, then the Inquiry process is somewhat academic anyway! Perish the thought! <BR/><BR/>Seriously though I posted the article on the Spur cos I thought the history might be of interest to people - in a chessgamey sort of way. <BR/><BR/>However I do have fairly certain opinons re the issues discussed here, but I dont feel inclined to discuss them in depth in public. <BR/><BR/>I wish someone would contact good old Kirtle Green, otherwise known as "TamlinTamsin" privately, if they want to discuss these points. This blog seems too public. <BR/><BR/>I hope to hear, <BR/>Cheers <BR/><BR/>Kirtlekirtlegreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02071798462051268461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32199602.post-53250920146771168772007-04-11T18:41:00.000+01:002007-04-11T18:41:00.000+01:00Hmm.. If both schemes go to Inquiry (which they ar...Hmm.. If both schemes go to Inquiry (which they are) then the Government (or more accuarately, the appointed Inspector) can decide that they should be handled together. Hell, this Government can do bloody anything whether it's legal or not (like Iraq, for example) so I'd suggest the "statutory procedures" and other legal loops are not worth the paper they're written on.<BR/><BR/>As I understand it, the Local Authority vs. Trunk Road distinction is more about where the money comes from (i.e., a handy accouting fiddle) rather than anything set in stone.<BR/><BR/>What "argument" would you suggest, to "overcome these obstacles", as you put it? Surely the "argument" is just that it has to be that way for the full impacts of the scheme to be assessesd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32199602.post-80593363580137807922007-04-10T11:35:00.000+01:002007-04-10T11:35:00.000+01:00Fair enough "progress is killing the countryside"....Fair enough "progress is killing the countryside". You have a point. <BR/><BR/>But how can the schemes be considered jointly for their overall impact? <BR/><BR/>As the history I have shown above indicates; legally, technically and in statutory terms they are separate schemes? <BR/><BR/>The Spur is not part of the National Trunk network, or the responsibility of the Highways Agency, so it is a little hard to see who what you wish to lobby for, could be achieved? <BR/><BR/>What argument do you intend to overcome these obstacles?kirtlegreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02071798462051268461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32199602.post-74637406352064133392007-04-10T11:18:00.000+01:002007-04-10T11:18:00.000+01:00Apparently the Spur and Bypass will be dealt with ...Apparently the Spur and Bypass will be dealt with at a joint public inquiry, but the whole thing remains a total mess. Unless the Environmental Statement is based on BOTH schemes (not just Bypass) the real picture (Bypass + Spur) will not be known. It's vital that this is ironed out at the pre-Inquiry meeting. Both schemes must be presented to the Inspector together at the Inquiry, and that means the environmental and economic impact assessments must be redone based on traffic flows for both schemes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com